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Gabby, Jordan and How NBC Rigged the Olympics

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Last night, I, like most American’s was watching the summer Olympics to see the American Fab 5 – our gymnast team that is going to secure us gold.   This year – three women were looking to compete in the all around – but there were only two spots per team.  That meant Gabby Douglas, Jordan Weiber, and Aly Raisman were battling it out.

Jordan Wieber, going into the event, was the world champion.

She did not qualify to get into the all around – by the smallest of margins.  The scores were as follows:

Aly Raisman 60.391
Gabby Douglas 60.265
Jordan Weiber 60.032

Jordan was edged out by Gabby by .15 of a point.  It is also worth noting that no other competitor in the world is close to these three ladies – the closest is a 57 (out of Russia).  I’m going to go ahead and say it – I think that Gabby Douglas got in because of advertising money.

I’m looking at you NBC.

NBC has spent a ton of money touting Gabby Douglas and her smile.  How many times have you seen that spot where cute little Gabby tells you that people tell her to smile, so she does.  (Teehee)  The announcers could barely contain their preferences for Gabby over any of the other athletes.  I get it, Gabby Douglas is super cute, she’ll look good on a cereal box.  But what I don’t get, is how Gabby Douglas was scored as well as she was in the Olympic’s qualifiers unless – the judges are in a fix.

For instance – Gabby received the same score as Mckayla, who literally vaulted 5 feet higher than everyone else on that vault.  Her bars were impressive, and her beam was average, but then you get to the floor routine.  Gabby took 4 – 5 steps out of bounds, ungracefully, after a corner to corner part of the routine.  Her routine wasn’t that much different than Jordan’s.  Jordan had half her foot out of bounds at one point.   They put Gabby’s score in the 13′s – but there was no way that Jordan should have had so much of a deduction.

Then, you go look at NBC’s site – and you discover that they don’t have video for either performance on there – and they are trying to make it seem like Aly Raisman is the one who booted Jordan out of the all-around.   (  Check it out at http://www.nbcolympics.com/gymnastics/index.html )  Really NBC?  We’re not stupid.  It was Gabby who was over scored.  Not Aly.  It should have been Jordan and Aly in the all around.

Gabby had an amazing, well worth going for the individual medal uneven bars routine.  However, I don’t believe she should have been in the all around.

What do you think?  Was Gabby over-scored?  Should Jordan be in the all around?

 

  • riley

    I couldn’t agree more….

  • http://twitter.com/chemgirljaime chemgirljaime

    The whole thing is rigged IMO

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      You only think that because you’re Canadian. :-P

    • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

      In a sense you are right. Judging panels may not consist of say U.S.A judges but often they have close ties or countries that depend on aid. It does make a difference. In the past it played a HUGE role. Nadia had to be twice as good to get the scores she did. Lucky she was. These days at this Olympics it was just whack, if a person knows gymnastics they are not going to be scoring in huge differences, maybe in tenths of a point. This indicates they really need to do something, even look at the errors made in what two cases? Where it had to be reversed, this clearly indicates experience.problems. Issues.

  • http://twitter.com/snuggledeath Dezi

    Hmm, I don’t think NBC has all the gymnastics judges in their back pocket, but if that’s what you think, okay.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      I’m not saying they paid them – but the power of suggestion is huge. I definitely think there was something going on there.

      • http://twitter.com/snuggledeath Dezi

        they get rid of the highest and lowest scores for exactly this reason, and i really, really don’t think olympic judges watch nbc specials.

        • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

          They only get rid of the lowest score for the team. They don’t get rid of the lowest score for the all around.

          In all the defences I’ve read online, I’ve failed to see how they justify Gabby’s 13 on the floor – especially considering how hard they scored Russia last night on the floor. Gabby’s four steps out of bound should have resulted in at most a high 12 / flat 13 – but they gave Gabby just enough so that Jordan was bounced out.

          Really, I think that the human judges are affected by the same power of suggestion the rest of the world is. Gabby is being touted in all media sources as the one to watch, they believe the hype, and score accordingly. Figure skating and professional horseback riding all have the same problems.

          • http://twitter.com/snuggledeath Dezi

            I was just thinking about this yesterday (sorry to come back to an old post). But each country talks about their OWN athletes–for example, you can bet in South Africa everyone’s touting Le Clos (swimmer) as the ‘giant killer’ (that giant being Phelps). I can tell you for a fact that in Germany, we’re talking about Marcel Nguyen, the men’s gymnast. Every country has their ‘darling’ and if anything, they would score anybody in their way ‘lower’. (This is also why they get judges who don’t have athletes participating in the event.) I mean, unless you think that the judges wanted to give Gabby Douglas the ~historic moment~ of being a black gold medallist I’m not sure what you think the judges are doing.

            • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

              You know – after watching the all around, I’m a little confused as to why Gabby won over Viktoria Komova. To me, Viktoria had a way better floor routine than her score (15.1 to the 15.033 that Gabby posted) was a little low as her floor routine to me was nearly flawless. Of course, Gabby had a great day – but Viktoria also looked way more impressive on the uneven bars than Gabby did.

              Of course, when you’re looking at athletes of this level – it’s hard to say why the judges do and do not do something – but I definitely think there was so over scoring of Gabby based on her attitude. This is pretty typical though of figure skating, horseback riding, and gymnastics – the human error aspect. :(

              The Russian girls showed great grace though, especially Viktoria.

  • Anonymous

    PS – It’s Jordyn.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      Sorry – I was finding it written both ways so I went with the NBC version of her name. Just another reason to say that NBC disliked her.

  • Hannah Wolfe

    Yeah, I’m totally with you here. It just doesn’t make sense. Not even thinking of advertising money and whatever, just looking at what each competitor put forth in the gym yesterday and looking at scores…it doesn’t make sense.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      I think the key here is that (and figure skating) rely on human error. When you have something that is scored in such a way – there’s always error – but they should compensate for that. (perhaps allowing wildcards?)

      • Lisa

        They need better judges. Why not get people with the same caliber as the reference judges? The ones who scored it all within three tenths of a point being the widest margin. Instead of less qualified persons and gaps of entire points. Sure some of it is subjective but not all of it. Not to a point difference. That is just someone not knowing what they are doing. Not understanding what to look for. Just like a judge giving Gabby a higher score for her Amanar then McAlya for her stuck Amanar. This does not happen with the reference judges and I have no idea why more effort is not put forth to get some real experienced judges who are well qualifed. They just figure well if it is close we will leave as is and if it is real screw up then the reference judges step in.

  • PostingMadly

    I’m looking not at NBC and not at United States Olympics gymnastics but at Olympics gymnastics teams worldwide. Romania had some gymnasts that did not do so well, yet got really good scores. They were not the only team to be scored as what seemed unfairly high or low. Gymnastics seems like one of the most political sports there is; figure skating is another.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      Iceskating is definitely another sport where this is a problem – I just think it was so freakin prevalent this Olympics with the women – I don’t understand how they can justify it.

      The Russian scores were just as bad. That one girl who fell off the beam – and then got a 13.9 or whatever? Way too high of a score.

      • A

        That was Komova if you mean when she like almost landed on the judges, it was Mustafina if you mean a simple fall. NBC freaked that Komova got a higher score than Mustafina because Mustafina simply fell off ( I think that is a point-u can look it up) but Komova made quite a few errors on her landing, landing in a squat and doing her many step thing she does, its like STOP dude. Its clear she can. Anyway, She still medaled. Cause the fact is once they tossed out beam and this is like hard to believe that they tossed out Aly’s bars (which she always blows) and she still lost. She had the Amanar, supposed to be the beam and floor champion. And they tossed out the only even she has issues with yet she lost because she also flubbed beam. And Mustafina I guess on bars got enough points to make up for the difference in floor and the Amanar.

        • Jay

          Komova should have won the AA by 0.3 points. The few partisan judges decided they will overscore Gabby so much in her weak events i.e.- Bars and Beam and so as to make it impossible for Komova to catch her. They were even shocked to see Komova do an unexpectedly good floor routine. To analyze each event: Vault- Komova stepped out, so she got only 15.466. Bars- Gabby=15.766,was overscored by at least 0.366, in past she had never crossed 15.3, Gabby’s execution was definitely lower than komova and komova’s difficulty was 0.5 higher, so Gabby shud have got 15.4 at best but some judges overscored, not all, 3 out of the 7, two suspect nations, puerto rico, colombia who get US funding. they wanted to give Gabby enough so she becomes unreachable by Komova; Beam- everybody saw komova was better in execution but inexplicably scored lower than Gabby. Gabby shud have got 15.3 at best. That wud have put Komova up by 0.3 overall. She was cheated and she knew it, she and her coach looked down after the strange scores of Gabby on Bars and Beam. I dont know what NBC does with moneybags, but it seems british sport fraternity and many judges had an unannounced mission to get the first black gymnastics champion. All this politics really destroys the credibilty of olympics. It is like United nations now, groups of countries judges lobbying each other.

        • Najmah

          I didn’t get that whole thing for a while… I actually still don’t get it. Now that I think about it, I heard different opinions about how they determined who placed where. I also heard that it was decided by their scores on the floor minus the difficulty scores. Although Aly had a higher difficulty scire which would more than likely decrease her evaluation because she is dong more difficulty flips both were thrown out and in the end Mustafina won.

  • Jean

    The Atlantic’s breakdown of the competition shows how the scores probably were fair: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/07/why-jordyn-wieber-didnt-make-it-gif-guide/55201/

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      I think I understand why she got the scores she did – but what I don’t understand is why Gabby got as high of scores as she did. I’d be interested in seeing someone justify Gabby’s scores using only Sunday night.

      While her uneven was better than Jordan’s – Jordan’s floor was so much better than Gabby’s I think they even out.

    • D

      Who cares what the Atlantic says? Someone needs to just wake everyone up. Online you can find the complete guide to this if you wish, it will tell you each judge and what score each gave, then look at the reference judges, who are there to babysit the other judges. Anyone with experience knows Komova won.

      Unless they are blinded by patriotism for U.S.A.
      NBC should we believe how they yack all day about Mustafina? GMAB

  • Anonymous

    According to your figures… it’s not .15 of a point Douglas was ahead of Weiber, it’s 0.233. See subtract 60.032 from 60.265, is 0.233, unless it’s NBC maths. I think you have to look at the bigger picture of judges overscoring a lot of people. Russia should not have won a silver and they themselves knew it.

    • Sophia

      Russia completely deserved their place on the podium, and Viktoria Komova should have won the all round. I am not denying the fact that Gabby Douglas is an amazing gymnast, but both her beam and vault routines in the final were overscored. The russian gymnasts also bring a grace like quality to their routines that very few American gymnasts (for instance, Nastia Liukin) possess. Russia knew that they had the goods to win the gold, and that is what made silver all the more disappointing.

      • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

        I wonder if they weren’t scored a little lower based on the fact that they did make so many errors in the team competition. Those errors have to be in the judges mind – and Gabby’s nearly flawless week was pretty impressive because she didn’t have a major error besides the four steps out on floor all week.

    • l

      Russian team said they waiting for the scores crying et. Were not looking to win Gold but feared not medaling at all after floor fiasco. That would mean no more funding=back to zero medals. The however were ahead enough to keep silver.
      Almost tied with USA after bars.

  • Sita40

    Yes! And now Gabby has won the gold in the all around when she stepped out of bounds on the floor. The Russian silver metal winner’s floor routine was beautiful and flawless.She really deserved Gold. They started the American and Russians on vault for the all around and team competitions. The Americans predictably dominate. That gets people into the frame of mind to accept the American victory without question.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      Viktoria’s vault kind of gave me pause, but then when I watched her uneven bars… holy crap. I still think based on skill and difficultly, she more than made up for her vault mistake with the beam, uneven and floor. :(

  • anonymous

    I don’t understand how gabby managed to win the gold medal. Viktoria has the grace and difficulty. Even though she may have made some minor mistakes on the beam, gabby did too. Hence, i don’t understand how gabby managed to achieve a 15.5. Viktoria’s floor was almost flawless. I’m not saying that gabby’s routine was bad, however i think that viktoria should have gotten a higher score. Her bar routine had a much higher difficulty and her lines were gorgeous. How is it that she only scored 0.2 higher than gabby?

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      I really don’t understand it either. At least Viktoria has a chance to win a gold on the uneven bars individual. :(

      • Najmah

        Viktoria participated in the beam final as well as the uneven bars. She placed fifth on the uneven bas and second on the beam.

    • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

      Simple. Douglas was overscored and Komova was low balled. Look at what the reference judges scores were- they are better qualified and gave AA win to Komova. Look up who what judges were on the panel and from what countries, not only close USA ties but NBC or Comcast runs news in those countries.
      Look at the variations in judges scores, its insane one judge low balled Russia every time- just compare with the other scores. In many cases there were differences in scores of over a point- insane if they really know how to judge.

    • L

      Poor Judging=idiocy

    • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

      Gabby should not have won and Mustafina should not have tied with Raisman, look up the reference judges scores. Mustafina they have as clear third so I have to wonder if some bias toward USA does exist why both Russian were low balled. There was on judge that marked them over .5 less then the others so that I guess could factor in. But with Douglas and Weiber I have been thinking about this at the Scam cup everyone said Jordyn won. Lots of people do not know Douglas won but since she was not official it did not count still she won. At Olympic Trials Douglas beat Weiber. So, I guess NBC knowing all this could just see Raisman as the logical person not to make it to the AA. Just because it is always Douglas or Weiber first and Raisman somewhere after. I mean in the AA when Raisman made it, I knew she would not medal. Gabby I knew would.

      • Najmah

        I agree!

    • Najmah

      You are so wrong, Victoria while an absolutely amazing gymnast, had many errors in the all around. She was out of bounds on her vault and stumbled in the balance beam. It was extremely evident that she should not ave won the all around and the act that she had the audacity to think that she should have gotten gold with all her errors though Gabbie was flawless is astounding. I love Victoria like all the gymnasts who worked their behinds off and felt for her when she cried BUT Gabbie absolutely deserved her medal hand down!

  • jamesblue85

    The video coverage was very sketchy. They showed near the end that the Russian needed to score a 15.2 on the floor exercise to get the gold. The girl got up there and did everything perfect, stuck all the landings and looked much more elegant than the american (I know from watching the other gymnasts that she should have got better than a 15.2). After, they didn’t ever show what her score was for that routine. They only showed the total of all the scores added up that put the american on top. From what i witnessed, it was obviously rigged.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      I agree – the NBC coverage definitely made it more pro-America. I really don’t understand how she didn’t get a 15.3 either. :( It kind of takes the joy out of the olympics.

  • Dee

    Stephanie I think you are a racist. You are upset because Gabby beat Jordan and now you are declaring the coverage done by NBC rigged. My sister and I were saying how there was virtually no coverage of Gabby until after she distinguished herself in the team competition. If Jordan was so good, why was Gabby the one in 4 events for the team competition and Jordan only participated in two events. Why was NBC showing so much footage of Jordan’s and Aly’s family and only occasional glimpses of Gabby’s family. Gabby won the all-around Gold and that speaks volume. That is her validation. Now, Stephanie, go put your white sheet back on.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      I don’t know what NBC you were watching, but I saw tons of shots of Gabby’s family (to the point where I can tell you what they were wearing) and there were just as many spots about her.

      Judging by the fact that you called me a racist based on one opinion – I’d say you were looking for people to be racist about Gabby. Not everything is about skin color. She took four steps out on the floor. Her beam wasn’t as technical and she had large balance checks. She shouldn’t have scored as high but gymnastics is a subjective sport and she’s got a fun smile – so she did.

      That has nothing to do with skin color – and you making it about skin color proves your bias – not mine.

    • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

      The Race Card=LAME, The reference judges have way more experience and gave Komova the win. DEAL with IT. If it was as obvious as it is to anyone that ever had an elite gymnastic career, and the reverse were true with Gabby clearly being better, I would feel the same. I saw plenty of Gabby’s mom and family by the way. My your race card has blinded you to simple facts.

    • lisa

      Take this racist zeal and anyone you know that has some and email USA gymnastics Marta and ask if Price was fourth in prelims why was she an alternate when Ross was 5th and Moroney was 7th. Price is only just 16, has a good shot at Rio-I understand her bad luck only 3 team members did each beam, bars ect, so they had the three, went for specialists Kyla would have made it anyone being 5th but was kept for bars (where Raisman blows) and beam (where Gabby can be really shaky)-ended up they were afraid Jordon would not hit her connections and put Gabby on beam. In any case Price was an alternate. Many people did though see this as very unfair. She placed fourth. Some zeal could help her for Rio. Then again she may not need it. By that time she could be the new Gabby.

  • cl

    Crackers always mad when someone better beats their fav. GABBY was just a lot better athelete who out performed the all rusians, romanians, jordyn and ally.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      Mature, calling me a cracker.

      Your version of racism is the worse than anything I could ever possibly do. I’m sorry that you don’t agree with me – but gymnastics is a subjective sport – and my opinion has nothing to do with the color of skin, and more her age, experience, and the abilities she either messed up on or preformed.

  • creole68

    Gabby is the ALL AROUND CHAMPION. Why are you second guessing the scoring? I am so sorry Gabby has to deal with people hating. This is all about the darling Jordy , but she doesn’t have to worry, you people will put her on the “America Snow White Stand. How dare an African American win!! Whenever racism is denied, “Thou doth protest too Much”,, Who said, ” I don’t see color”? LOL

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      Listen, I understand that you don’t follow gymnastics, and probably are just excited for the Olympics like most people, but Gabby had been historically (and frustratingly) inconsistent her entire career. Look at the Olympics for example – the all around champion you speak of got 8th in the uneven bars because she messed up something that she’s been doing for three weeks. (Look at Worlds this year, and last year.)

      The scoring in these sports is subjective – and if you don’t think the judges take into account something like the fact that she has traditionally not been as consistent as the other players on the world stage, and score her higher accordingly, even though it should just be on technical merit you are as blinded by race as you claim I am. That is why Jordyn was scored lower, and why Komanov was scored much lower than Gabby would have been scored on the same routine. It’s not fair. They are supposed to score on things like if their legs are kept together, or how high they get on the vault, not based on if they are putting a better performance in than they have seen in the previous years.

      It is possible to be critical of scoring and have it have NOTHING to do with race.

    • creole68

      Calm down Dearie, the world champion vaulter even messed up. You should be happy, Gabby didn’t medal today. But she is still the ALL AROUND CHAMPION. Never assume what a person knows. Again you have proven my point. Common Sense is Not Common!!!

      • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

        Yeah, Maroney did mess up, and honestly, she got scored too high on that for sitting on her ass when you compare it to some of the people who got scored much lower for just taking a hop / step. (Even taking difficulty into account, a fall of that size should have been a much higher deduction.)

        In fact, part of that has to do with the way scores are done – there is way too much of an emphasis placed on the difficulty level. For instance, Maroney got to sit on her ass and still got silver because her difficulty was too high for anyone to actually catch up. Other athletes did a perfect vault but because they’re starting difficulty was lower – and judges DO NOT give out perfect 10′s anymore. (Which means they are REQUIRED to find a deduction somewhere, even if there is none – which is obvious by the fact that Maroney’s team vault wasn’t scored as a perfect 10 when it should have been) Without a 10 – no one could’ve caught up to her. It’s ridiculous.

        Instead of saying, “OMG, GABBY IS BLACK AND YOU MUST HATE HER BECAUSE SHE’S BLACK” why don’t you go point out exactly why you think she got the scores she did VS Komanov in the individual all around – because if they were really scoring on grace on the dance moves, Komanov should have been higher. (But they obviously didn’t.)

      • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

        Not in your realm. The better experienced judges who are there to make sure the other judges do not mess up to royal. All gave Komova the win. And their scores do not vary by like entire points with one single judge always giving Russa more than half a point less than the other judges.
        They did not as one Judge did gift Gabby a better Amanar than Maroney.

    • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

      NO it is about scoring and how screwed up the judges scores were at this Olympics. And about how the better experienced judges all came up with Komova as being lowballed and Gabby being gifted, and that could easily apply to the qualify. They made it seem as if Raisman stole Jordyns spot. Raisman placed first for USA, second all around. It was Gabby that slid in by a very narrow margin. And if Gabby was gifted, well……….do the math

  • mikaesia

    Are you people really serious?? NBC is only one of many networks broadcasting the Olympics around the world. They have no say so in who the judges are or what they decide. Gymnasts from other countries are sponsored just as heavily as Gabby. Even if the network favored Gabby, I seriously doubt the international slate of judges conspired for the girl with the “cute” smile. Despite your public opinions which mean diddly squat (for lack of a better term), by Olympic rules Gabby Douglas won fair and square. Deal with it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

      Not according to the reference Judges. And how is it that in both Worlds and in London, Komova always qualify first and in some cases has better routines does better in all around then gets worse scores? Very Odd

  • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

    I am a bit lost. Komova got the highest score – Higher than Raisman. Mustafina the second Russian in the all around had the 57. So, I guess Komova is the best. Based on the logic at the start of this article.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      Well, this was for the Olympic trials – so it was me arguing that Gabby was overscored for that.

      • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

        You mean qualify? How did a Russian get into the San Jose trials. And if people want to play the race card who got ripped off in San Jose- Elizabeth Price, came in 4th, Ross in 5th, Maroney in 7th, but I guess they wanted that vaulter,.

      • lisa

        I am just lost the Olympic trials were in San Jose, Ca. The top five were in this order with the number one getting an automatic birth onto the team. Normally I do not see color but I felt if some do want to play the race card Price may benefit in the end from your – zeal- Gabby is going to be fine.

        1 Gabby Douglas- automatic not picked-black woman

        2.Jordyn Weiber

        3.Aly Raisman

        4.Elizabeth Price-black woman

        5.Kyla Ross

        6. do not remember

        7.McAlya the vaulter

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      Oh, I see what you’re saying – yes, Komova did get the highest score, but at the time I wrote this she hadn’t completed her rotation yet. Apologies.

      • Lisa

        So, did you assume Mustafina would have the highest russian score? Was her score posted prior to Komova’s. I guess it is possible since the russian team seems to have had Mustafina first much of the time, I think all except bars, where she went second and Komova last. Scores go up with every performance, last usually scored least harsh. That is why some fuss was made by Marta Karoyli that she had wanted Jordyn last,. Not Aly.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

    Jordan was edged out by Gabby by .15 of a point. It is also worth noting that no other competitor in the world is close to these three ladies – Komova? Hello she had the highest score.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

    I agree though. And I think this bias went all the way to Gold.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      I think the problem I have with the bias really is that Jordyn was scored on how well she always does – while Gabby was scored on the fact that she doesn’t always do that well… her inconsistency gave her a better score when it counted. Sucks for Jordyn.

      • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

        Well, Jordyn did kind of blow. But IMO not enough to knock her out Gabby should have been out.

  • Pissed

    You keep taking off when I post that Komova beat them all out, the 57 was Mustafina the 2nd qualifier out of Russia. Your artile is incorrect. So, are you prejudice againt Komova? Or what. I guess I will do a blog about your blog.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      Lisa,

      I haven’t deleted any of your posts. They are still on the site. The way that disqus works, it displays on a rating scale. Since this is an old post, no one is rating your comments and they reside at the bottom of the post.

      I don’t know what I have done to deserve the abuse of the last couple comments, but please at least get your facts straight before commenting.

      - Stephanie

  • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

    At the end of July, Komova competed at the 2012 Summer Olympics in London, United Kingdom. She qualified in first place for the all around final with a score of 60.63
    Someone shoud sue you.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      I was not speaking of the Russians in this post. I was speaking specifically to the point that Gabby was overscored by the judges which put her ahead of Jordyn. How does that involve the Russian athletes at all? Why should I be sued?

      • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

        I am over it. My post clears it up. Its your article. Quote “It is also worth noting that no other competitor in the WORLD is close to these ladies-the closest is a 57 (out of russia). Then you post the scores highest is Raisman’s 60.391. But this is not fact. That fact is that Komova (out of Russia) had 60.63. Higher than your three best in the world nobody can touch.
        I

    • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

      Victoria Komova 60.63

      Aly Raisman 60.391
      Gabby Douglas 60.265
      Jordan Weiber 60.032

    • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

      Jordan was edged out by Gabby by .15 of a point. It is also worth noting that no other competitor in the world is close to these three ladies – the closest is a 57 (out of Russia).

  • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

    Ok, I am printing this out along with my deleted comments. Checking back in 24 hours to see if you corrected your mistake? Purposeful Lie. Komova was the number one qualifier. Its pretty easy to look up and I have told you numerous times. 24 hours and I am going to town. Putting up how you are on purpose dishonest and using your name and all my deleted comments. Thanks. It would be pretty east to change world to U.S.A or just post your own comment that oops, they were not the best in the world, Komova was.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      All of your comments are still here – so feel free to print it out. It is not my fault that you do not understand how to use the internet or look for your own comments on a post.

      • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

        I do not play baby games. Sorry. Hope you had fun with it though. I saw my comments posted then removed, that is fairly simple. And I understand exactly how it works.

    • Jennaaaaaaaa

      You’re pathetic! If she is deleting your comments, how did I just read them all? You’re arguing against no one right now because everyone is just laughing at you.

      Report to WordPress? Seriously? You must be new here. Let me clue you in: this is the Internet. This is someone’s blog. She can publish whatever she wants.

      Go suck a Russian dick and just log off, creep!

      • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

        Like you deserve any time, low class.

      • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

        Really, So I can just start a blog and publish fact as fiction. Not as on opinion? And not be liable for any of it? Where shall I start? What is you IQ.
        Let me guess, you have no idea.

      • Jay

        Komova should have won the AA. A few partisan judges decided they will overscore Gabby so much in her weak events i.e.- Bars and Beam and so as to make it impossible for Komova to catch her. They were even shocked to see Komova do an unexpectedly good floor routine. To analyze each event: Vault- Komova stepped out, so she rightly got only 15.466. Bars- Gabby=15.733was overscored by at least 0.366, Gabby’s execution was definitely lower than komova and komova’s difficulty was 0.5 higher, so Gabby shud have got 15.4 at best but some judges overscored, not all, but 3 out of the 7, esp two suspect nations, puerto rico, colombia who get US funding, they wanted to give Gabby enough so she becomes unreachable by Komova. Beam- everybody saw komova was better in execution but inexplicably scored lower than Gabby. Gabby shud have got 15.3 at best. That wud have put Komova up by 0.3 overall. She was cheated and she knew it. I dont know what NBC does with their moneybags, but it seems some judges had an unannounced mission to get the first black gymnastics champion. All this politics really destroys the credibilty of olympics. It is like United nations now, groups of countries judges lobbying each other.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

    Bogus e mail?

  • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

    Oh and 24 hours. Contacting wordpress as well.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      Please do. I will respond with the fact that you are abusive and don’t understand the internet.

      • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

        Understand what? That you simply post mistruths and refuse to correct them? Yet claim to be a professional in your field? And proceed to remove every comment, then put them all back up? SInce when is it abuse to ask that an author be honest? To Komova who I really thing has been cheated twice. No wonder she want’s to quit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

    Author of new series? But need help w laptop? I am a technical writer and I just got my kids new macs? Are you really who you say you are? Hard to believe a professional with ethics would delete comments that simply post the truth. Its not such a big deal Komova was first, why not give her the credit? It matters because the reference judges (look it up if you do not know who they are)gave Komova the win. Said while Gabby was overscored, Komova was low balled. These are the more experienced judges.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      Congratulations on getting your kids new macs. My parents don’t spoil me, and never have. Yes, I am who I said I am – and again, this has NOTHING to do with Komova AT ALL.

      • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

        Did you read your article? Perhaps you just need to read what you wrote?
        It says that Raisman, Douglas and Weiber had the highest scores and NOBODY in the WORLD could even come close. That the closest was the Russian with a 57. That does have to do with Komova. As she beat out your best in the world.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

    Dowd also reported that an unnamed “honcho at another network” stated that “Zucker is a case study in the most destructive media executive ever to exist… You’d have to tell me who else has taken a once-great network and literally destroyed it.”[13]

    On June 2, 2010, the New York Post reported that Zucker would be paid between $30 million and $40 million to leave NBC Universal shortly after Comcast completes its 51 percent acquisition in the company.[14]

    [edit]Plans

    He plans to work for the International Olympic Committee in Lausanne, Switzerland;[15][16] and is reported to be reuniting with former Today host Katie Couric to produce her daytime talk show for Disney-ABC Domestic Televisionthat would debut in 2012.[17]

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  • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

    It is the single best entry-level job in all of television,” Jeff Zucker, executive producer of Katie Couric’s upcoming talk show, says about his stint as a researcher for the 1988 Seoul Olympics, which precipitated his rise through the NBC ranks to CEO.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

    The Lonely Island – Natalie’s Rap Lyrics
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    [Chris Parnell]
    We’re sitting here today with film star Natalie Portman

    [Natalie Portman]
    Hello

    [Chris]
    So Natalie, tell us what a day in the life of Natalie Portman is like?

    [Natalie]
    Do you really want to know?

    [Chris]
    Please, tell us

    [Verse 1 - Natalie]
    I don’t sleep motherfucker off that ‘gnac and the durban
    Doin 120 gettin head while I’m swervin’
    (Damn Natalie, you a crazy chick)
    Yo, shut the fuck up and suck my dick!
    I bust in dudes’ mouths like Gushers motherfucker
    Pull up to NBC and smack the shit outta Jeff Zucker
    What you want Natalie? (To drink and fight!)
    What you need Natalie? (To fuck all night!)
    Don’t test me when I’m crazy off that airplane group
    Put my foot down your throat til your shit’s in my shoe
    Leave you screamin’, pay for my dry-cleanin’
    Fuck your man, it’s my name that he’s screamin’!

    [Chris]
    I’m sorry Natalie, are we to believe that you condone driving while intoxicated?

    [Natalie]
    I never said that I was a role model

    [Chris]
    But, what about the kids that look up to you? Do you have a message for them?

    [Verse 2 - Natalie]
    All the kids lookin up to me can suck my dick
    It’s Portman motherfucker, drink til I’m sick
    Slit your throat and pour nitrous down the hole
    Watch you laugh and cry; while I laugh, you die
    And to all the dudes, you know I’m talkin’ to you
    (We love you Natalie!) I wanna fuck you too!
    (P!) Is for Portman! (P!) It’s for pussy!
    I’ll kill your fuckin’ dog for fun, so don’t push me!

    [Chris]
    Well Natalie, I’m surprised, all this coming from a Harvard graduate?

    [Natalie]
    Well, there’s a lot you may not know about me

    [Chris]
    Really, such as?

    [Verse 3 - Natalie]
    When I was in Harvard I smoked weed everyday
    I cheated every test and snorted all the yay
    I gotta def posse, you gotta a bunch of dudes
    I’ll sit right down on your face and take a shit!

    [Verse 4 - The Lonely Island (Andy Samberg)]
    Natalie, you are a bad ass bitch (Hell yeah!)
    And I’ll always pay for your dry-cleanin when my shit gets in your shoe (What!)
    And as for the drug use, well I can’t vouch for that
    My dick is scared of you, guuurlll

    [Chris]
    Natalie, one final question: if you could steal a smooch from any guy in Hollywood who would it-

    [CPull up to NBC and smack the shit outta Jeff ZuckerWhat you want Natalie? (To drink and fight!)
    What you need Natalie? (To fuck all night!)
    Don't test me when I'm crazy off that airplane group

    [Natalie]
    No more questions

    [Outro beat]

    [Natalie]
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  • http://www.facebook.com/LaderaRanchProffessionalPetCare Lisa Burwell

    Coopersburg, and Sara Finnegan of St. Louis

    Wieber had cut deeply into Douglas’s lead, which had been almost a point and a half after the first two rotations, when she rocked a floor performance in the third rotation and scored 15.600 while Douglas had a wickedly wobbly balance beam routine that earned only a 14.850.

    But Douglas, needing to score a 15.200 on her final routine, the floor exercise, earned a 15.300.

    Only the Olympics trials winner earned an automatic spot at the end of Sunday’s competition.

    The other four team members and alternates were chosen by a selection committee headed by coordinator Martha Karolyi after Sunday’s competition ended.

    Douglas started Sunday night in spectacular fashion, earning a 16.000 on her vault which, during warm ups she had struggled to land. But when it counted, Douglas was nearly perfect. Wieber had a 15.350 on uneven bars, the piece of equipment Wieber has said was not her favorite.

    Elizabeth Price, a rising star from Coopersburg, who turned 16 only a month ago, finished fourth in the all-around, just behind third-place Aly Raisman.

  • Najmah

    I personally think each and every ones of you who sit here and under value Gabbie Douglas as if you could do what she does is completely ignorant and probably racist. Gabbie did an absolutely amazing job at the Olympics. She overcame so many obstacles, including leaving her family and home to work with her coach in a whole nother state, how many of you could and have done that! Jordan and Ally did equally as amazing jobs at the Olympics but the truth is the Jordan did stumble a little on each event. She received more deductions in relation to her difficulty level than the others. On the vault she stepped out of bounds, on the uneven bars while she stuck her landing she received deductions on the errors that she is used to having, I.e her hand stand. She had a wobble on her beam which wasn’t bad but both Aly and Gabbie had a higher difficulty score. If you go back and look at her beam she didn’t get all her connections which decreased her score. And yes she took a stumble like Gabby and actually scored higher, she qualified for the floor finals, but her overall score was lower than Gabbie. Who cares that anyone told her to smile. It’s tv and marketing. I bet they made up personas for everyone like Aly being sturdy and super nice. And while she may be, what 18 year old do you know that is nice to everyone, even her competition? Like I said, they all did an amazing job and even if the judging is rigged,I.e Bejing…. Just checked out the 2011 worlds in Tokyo… All around when Weber won over Komova… Rigging goes both ways!! Oh and the U.S. was on board with the 2 per country rule back in 2000 when Romania swept the podium… Not that I’m a fan but there’s hypocrisy all around.

  • Olympicfanatic55

    Wow. This is interesting. I actually do follow gymnastics and yet I am inclined to disagree with this. It’s ironic also that you should talk about Gabby’s inconsistency in your comments yet you yourself are quite inconsistent. First of all, you say that Gabby shouldn’t have gotten the same score as McKayla Maroney on the vault. What you don’t realize is that though McKayla does get a lot of air-time on vault, her landings aren’t as clean – save for the team final which she did, and that catapulted her score. Gabby on vault is very clean. She doesn’t get as much air as McKayla, but her legs are stuck together, straight, and she’s very close to a stick when she lands. The major difference, you will find, is the hang time they get in the air. Then you make the claim about her floor routine. Sadly for you, Gabby and Jordyn’s floor routines are different. Let’s start with, Gabby’s has a higher start value than Jordyn’s AND Komova’s. It’s shocking to me how people don’t seem to remember that. It’s that simple, you do harder things, you get more points. EXECUTION is a completely different thing altogether though. Anyway, you say that she was overscored on floor because she took 4-5 steps out of bounds (this makes me doubt your credibility. Which one is it? Did she take 4 or did she take 5? She can’t have taken both). Here’s what you don’t understand about floor event, and I thought even the commentators usually made this clear. When someone goes out of bounds on floor, the judges don’t count how many steps you take out of bounds. They look at whether it’s one foot that went out of bounds (in which case you incur a tenth deduction) or if both of them went out (in which case you incur 3 tenths), which is what she got, 3 tenths.

    It’s funny that you say that the commentators couldn’t contain their preference for Gabby, but if you really look at the NBC replays from the competitions, their complements for Gabby in particular seemed very reluctant. They seemed to almost set her up for failure with comments like, “She has been great on this through out the Olympics, but has struggled in the past”(vault AA), it’s really weird because there are some elements that gymnasts struggle with on different apparatus, let’s take Jordyn Weiber for example, she has had problems on bars and her beam routine has given her problems especially with the connection moves, but you didn’t hear a single commentator mention this before she went on did you? It’s funny though because Gabby went on and got the best score on vault in the AA competition.

    Anyway, that’s all I wanted to say. You might not like Gabby, or you might like other gymnasts more than her, but she went to the Olympics and CONQUERED. It’d be nice if we could just give her credit for what she did and get over the fact that our favorite gymnast didn’t win…and if you don’t like Gabby, then I suggest you start now because Rio is coming and Chow says Gabby hasn’t even reached her full potential. Save yourself the heartbreak and join teamdougie haha