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Free George Zimmerman?

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First of all, let me tell you that three separate people told me that it would be a bad idea for me to post this blog article.  In particular, they warned me that where they are, the black community has basically put out hits on any white people who have stood up in defense of George Zimmerman.   In fact, I know a couple of people in my life who I’m pretty sure might actually come at me physically for this blog post based on their maturity level and the fact that they like to solve problems with their fists and not their words – but here it goes anyway.  If I end up in a ditch somewhere bloody and bruised in the next week, y’all know what happened.  

New medical reports were leaked recently that show that George Zimmerman, who is half white, and half hispanic – was assaulted prior to the shooting of Trayvon Martin, who was black.   Zimmerman sustained two black eyes, a broken nose, and cuts on the back of his head which were strong enough to draw blood.  The autopsy report on Travyon Martin shows that he was killed at close range by one gun shot that did not leave his body after entering, and that he had bruised knuckles, one of them where the skin had broken.  In addition, a toxiology report showed that Trayvon had THC in his system.   [ Sources ]

The new reports suggest that the incident might have gone down more similarly to how George Zimmerman originally claimed – that it was self defense against someone who was trespassing in his gated community.

But let’s take a trip down memory lane shall we?   Do you remember when all you saw on facebook was this?

As someone who’s actual collegiate training is an undergrad in Administration of Justice from George Mason University, I had refrained on commenting on what the media had spewed forth regarding the Martin/Zimmerman case – because for the most part, when this story first broke, the media wasn’t showing anything in the way of evidence.  The media was plastering Martin’s grieving family all over the news talking about how their child was a saint.  Sharpton, Jackson, and even President Obama ended up throwing their opinion at the media as well.   People active in social media were creating things such as the pictures you see above, which were made to obviously stir up the communities based on perceived racial injustices and biases.

All of a sudden, if you weren’t for Trayvon, and for George Zimmerman being locked up, you were a racist.  If you didn’t believe that justice had to be carried out before hearing all the facts, you were a racist.    The New Black Panathers offered a bounty on George Zimmerman‘s head because the wheels of justice were moving a tad bit too slow for them.  Obama’s Department of Justice put the pressure on the state of Florida to charge Zimmerman with a hate crime, which could include a mandatory life sentence if he was convicted.   In fact, the state of Florida eventually hopped on board and hired a special prosecutor for the case who skipped the whole grand jury part and charged, and arrested Zimmerman for 2nd Degree Murder.

And all of this, based on… what?  What was the evidence – because the evidence being shown now says that the first responders on the scene commented on the state of Trayvon Martin‘s bloody knuckles.   Another first responder stated that George Zimmerman‘s jacket had grass stains on it and appeared to be wet - consistent with Zimmerman’s claim that Martin had held him down.  The FBI analysed the police tapes, and even they can’t say for certain who the cries for help were from, given the rest of the injuries to George Zimmerman it clearly shows that he was assaulted by Trayvon Martin before firing the weapon – and the cries were probably his.

I’ll tell you what it was based on – media bias towards race.  For instance, CNN has admitted that they defied journalistic ethics in their jump to conclusions when they declared police video showed no wounds – which later turned out that it did show wounds.  NBC has admitted that the altered the 911 call which made Zimmerman seem MUCH more racist than he may be.  (You know, they needed to get the ratings.)  And all of the rest of the United States jumped on the, “Put Zimmerman away because he’s a white guy who shot a poor black kid in cold blood” bandwagon without hearing the evidence.

In fact, people jumped on the bandwagon so much that there were other crimes, which went reported far less than the George Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin case BASED on the media bias in this case.  Take for instance the case of Alton Hayes, who physically assaulted a 19 year old white man in Chicago because he was trying to get back at the “white man” for what George Zimmerman had done.   And Matthew Owens, in Alabama was beaten by a group of black youth in a rage over the Trayvon Martin death.   In fact, here in good old Virginia, down in Norfolk, some reporters were even beat by an angry black mob – and that didn’t hit the news until 2 weeks after it happened.  (You can read the editors self serving drivel over here over why it wasn’t reported to the news outlets.)   All of this, because the media didn’t give the full story on Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman, and some of society acted in a blind racially motivated rage?

The tragedy of this case is not the damage that has been to done to George Zimmerman’s life – as he pulled the trigger against someone else and ended their life and should be held accountable for those actions regardless of if he was being attacked… the tragedy of this case is that it proves race relations in the United States currently are deteriorating further than they ever have before.  This was the media obviously provoking the United States into a race related rage – without having all of the evidence – and we all bought into it.  If this was a case of white vs. white, would you have seen so much media coverage?  How about black v. black?  And if you had – would you have thought that the family of Trayvon Martin had bought the media off?  Would you have given George Zimmerman a little more benefit of the doubt?

And what is it about the media that discounted the Hispanic side of George Zimmerman?  Why was his identity defined by only half of his hertiage?  If he had been 100% Hispanic would this story have been news at all?

Do you still believe George Zimmerman is guilty?  Should he be convicted of 2nd degree murder?

  • Fuckubitch

    your nothing but an entitled white trash bitch who doesn’t understand shit about the way the world works for those who weren’t handed everything by mommy and daddy

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      Judging from your IP address are you sure you’re not projecting here?  I’m not the one who ran back home to mommy and daddy when life got a little rough.  And last time I checked, I had a job, and supported myself.

      I get why you hate me, but let’s make sure when you attack me on my blog it’s for valid reasons.  

      Thanks!

      • Fuckubitch

        Your pussy stinks and you got stains in your drawers.  No one would want to fuck you you dirty bitch.

        • WTF

           Hi Matt!  How ya been? 

        • Allyouneedislove

          Hi…whoever you are. I don’t know your relationship with Stephanie nor do I care to, but I do know a few things that I would like to share with you.

          1. Anyone who reaches out to someone out of malice and decides to throw around claims of “dirty” and “white trash” should most likely refrain from being “dirty” and “white trash” in their speech, text, etc. The last thing you want is to leave out simple things like grammer and punctuation…really doesn’t get the right message across.

          2. Though you may think that the word “fuck” really drives the point home…that’s only on occasion…and this isn’t one of them.

          3. This blog had nothing to do with Stephanie and her sexual habits…so if you are planning to make comments…keep your eye on the prize kid.

          4. I’m disturbed as to how you obtained Steph’s “drawers” to reveal what you believe to be such an awesome insult…which by the way was anything but.

          5. Most of the time when an individual makes outlandish and, quite frankly,  childish remarks as you have they are transferring their own feelings of inadequacy which means you should consider therapy so that you can deal with any issues you may have.

          I feel for you…I don’t understand how anyone can walk through like being so angry…is it really worth it? No…not really…but you’d rather spend your time discrediting someone most likely to void the attention away from dealing with your own imperfections, insecurities, and impotencies.

        • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

          You ain’t even on my level, Ima let my homies ride on you :)  

          • Guest

            Stephanie, you know better than to post blogs that cause people to think when writing a response.  When you do you get responses from ass clowns where their brain starts to short out while trying to comprehend concepts like the media lies…  They start to have breakdowns because they base their life around the idea that everything that comes out of the TV is real.
             
            Make it up to him and post something about the Jersey Shore people not tanning right now so he can get back in his comfort zone.

        • Laura

          What a ridiculous child. Learn to spell, please. Shaking my head at the stupidity. It burns.

    • WTF

      We can take solace in the fact that this kind of bullshit malarkey will cease to be framed by black and white terms and contexts going on out.  Black and White is played out anyways.  LOS LATINOS WILL RISE MOTHAFUCKAS!!

      Also for those of us in need of a grammar skooLing…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32p8d6OudgU

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1008577104 Kim A. Gibson

       o yea now THIS ^^^^ is racist lol smh at trash people

  • http://twitter.com/DeviTaylor Devi Taylor

    Yes, I believe George Zimmerman is guilty and yes I believe he should be convicted of second degree murder for one simple fact: he was told not to follow Trayvon and that police were on their way. He decided not to obey the instructions of law enforcement and, instead, start a confrontation. If he had just done what he was told, he wouldn’t be facing murder charges. Trayvon Martin did not start the fight. George Zimmerman did and there is nothing that can be said that will erase that fact no matter how bad George Zimmerman supporters want to deny it.

    Additionally, Trayvon Martin was not trespassing. His father lived in that area and he was an invited guest.

    • Allyouneedislove

      Though I would agree I’d like to pose a question first if that’s ok?

      When a girl goes out to a bar in a slutty outfit (as most girls do)…and she flirts with a guy all night even after she’s wasted and her friends tell her to knock it off…and then leaves said bar…and he follows her out into the alley and rapes her…is that her fault? Should she be the one charged? Does she no longer have the right to say “No” because she was “asking for it”?

      We all do things that we more than likely should not have…but that doesn’t always mean that our head is the only one on the chopping block for any consequences faced. The facts are apparent… Trayvon had no markings on him other than his bruised and bloodied knuckles and the single close range shot that was fired by Zimmerman. Zimmerman, however, suffered multiple wounds which are now on record per a thorough medical examination.

      Why didn’t Zimmerman listen? Who knows. Was the kid probably just high and eating skittles? Probably so…well maybe…because see I can’t for the life of me figure out why someone would beat someone else for no reason if they were stoned and munching. That part makes no sense…why so violent?

      I am not saying you are wrong…I’m just saying that the facts don’t necessarily support your claim that Zimmerman started the ordeal outside of removing himself from his vehicle. Regardless of whether Zimmerman followed him or not…there is no physical evidence that supports he started any sort of argument or physical altercation with Trayvon…only that he ended it.

      • DeviTaylor

        There is no evidence that Trayvon Martin started the fight either. In fact, based on testimony by his girlfriend, he was aware someone was following him and tried to ditch the person. That doesn’t sound like someone taking an aggressive stance. That sounds like someone trying to get away from a potentially dangerous situation.

        Zimmerman’s past actions can testify as to why he didn’t obey the dispatcher. In fact, you can hear the evidence on the 911 call. He says, “They always get away” and then he got out of his car. I think it is reasonable to assume that he didn’t want Trayvon to “get away”. What happened after that, no one knows except that a 17 year old boy is dead and it took months for his killer to be arrested even though the man stated at the scene of the crime that he killed him (Trayvon).

        Whether people who support Zimmerman want to acknowledge it or not, race does play a part in this because Zimmerman made it about race. If it had been a person with light skin wearing a hoody and walking at night, would he have called the police and tried to approach the person? Again, his past actions indicate he reserved that type of behavior for people he deemed suspicious and it was always people with dark skin.

        I’m not sure your rape example applies to the Zimmerman case. I think your example would work better if Zimmerman had died because of his actions at the hands of Trayvon Martin.  But no, it is not a woman’s fault that she get’s raped if she dresses “slutty” and gets drunk. The may have contributed to the situation. Likewise, Zimmerman’s decision to go against the orders of the dispatcher contributed to the situation that leaves a teen dead and him facing 2nd degree murder charges.

        While it’s not possible to know all of the outcomes to our decisions, there is such a thing as using common sense to make sound decisions. Zimmerman’s head is on the chopping block because he is still alive. He has the burden of proving that Trayvon’s death was justified and the evidence doesn’t speak to that at all.

        • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

          Why do you assume that “they” is black in this case?  They could just as easily be a young punk walking through the neighborhood.  It could be hispanic kids – of which Zimmerman is half hispanic.  

          The truth is, we don’t know what he would have done if the kid had been white, or hispanic.  It might have ended the same way, it might not have.

          • DeviTaylor

            “Why do you assume that “they” is black in this case?  They could just as
            easily be a young punk walking through the neighborhood.  It could be
            hispanic kids – of which Zimmerman is half hispanic.”

            First, I didn’t “assume black”. I said dark skin which can also apply to Hispanics, Middle Easterners, and Asians. Regardless, he didn’t want the person to “get away” and he got out of his car to follow him. Previous 911 calls that he made and reports of his behavior towards other minorities in the neighborhood indicate he had a problem with racial profiling.

            Zimmerman being half-Hispanic doesn’t save him from charges of racism especially since, according to his own MySpace page, he didn’t like Hispanics either. I wish people would stop using his Hispanic heritage as some sort of anti-racist card because it is possible to be part of a minority group and still be prejudiced against other minority races. I’m comfortable saying things probably would have gone down differently had the person been Caucasian rather than a member of a minority race in this case.

            • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

              (Fun fact, for the first time ever in the United States last year less white babies were born – we’re no longer the majority!)

              I apologize, I did take your dark skin to mean black.  I shouldn’t have – you are right in the fact that he seems to be an asshole to all races (you can even find posts on websites about him being assholes to whites.)  I honestly think in this situation it could have been any race – but that’s mostly because I know he actually comes from Manassas (which I call Manasshole) which is mainly full of white trash and wiggers (like the guy hating on me below, his IP was from Manassas).  I think it’s more probable it was an AGE thing than a race thing.  But that’s just my personal opinion.

        • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

          Also, this article goes a little in depth into his racism:

          http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hCdykoIjmPMAgLTFzxHVIydZIECQ?docId=3f268f957ba44ecdba44ed43b71e48e1 

          It seems that he is basically racist against you know, everyone.  Which isn’t racism as much as it is being a douchebag.  And to my knowledge, there are no laws against that – but there should be.

      • Guest

        I’m confused about your analogy…  Is Zimmerman the one wearing the slutty outift who walks away minding his own business and is followed and then raped?  Seems to me that Martin was the one minding his own business, perhaps flirting with Zimmerman’s sense of adventure, “asking for it” b/c he was wearing a hoodie…

        If I’m carrying and someone breaks my nose, I’m not going to break their nose in retaliation, I’m going to cap a bitch.  Zimmerman had no reason to fight back (which would explain the lack of wounds on Martin).  Dude had a gun and obviously wasn’t afraid to use it.

  • Guest

    Very well written and researched.  I agree with your premise about the media’s influence on this case.  But the media has an influence on a lot in our lives.  Fear of flying?  It’s a myth that flying is dangerous.  Terrorism?  I’m personally a million times more worried about cancer.  Jon Benet Ramsey, Caylee Anthony, etc…  The media doesn’t care about the disappearance of black toddlers.  Take the latest case about the “flesh eating bacteria” the girl in Georgia unfortunately contracted.  There’s been a big deal made about that individual case, but not about other similar cases.  Media is a business, they’re trying to sell their product.  It’s up to us as consumers to be savvy about our approach, just like we don’t believe everything that the used car salesmen tell us.

    The reports about Martin having “two black eyes and a broken nose” is pretty misleading…  Ever seen the fallout of a broken nose?  Or any broken bone for that matter?  Bruising.  A proper broken nose will lead to two black eyes, so is that a redundant statement by the media, or was Zimmerman punched in both eyes (as it seems the reports want to lead us to conclude)?

    I agree that the race aspect of this has been blown out of proportion, but what needs to be looked at is that Zimmerman defied the instructions given by the 911 dispatcher that he called on his own volition and approached Martin who is now dead.  Was it self defense for Zimmerman to shoot Martin?  Possibly.  Was it self defense for Martin to break Zimmerman’s nose and inflict other injuries?

  • Brandon P.

    I can’t think of an intelligent response to this debate, so I’ll just attack you on a personal level.

    …and idiots like this are allowed to vote.  Worse, allowed to purchase and carry firearms.

    I don’t rush to judgement, because I don’t know all the facts.  The facts I have seen (including the recent ones) I believe Zimmerman should maybe at best be charged with Manslaughter.  Probably voluntary, since he did follow Martin, but not murder.

    I’m 31.  If a physically fit younger man (teens/20′s) was taller than me, looked stronger than me, and attacked, I would do what I need to do to survive.  If he felt his life was in danger, he did the right thing, but he put himself in that situation.  A man armed with a gun thinks he’s hot shit, and most armed individuals are quick on the trigger.

    I own a weapon.  If a robber breaks into my house, I’ll brandish my weapon.  A TV isn’t worth his life.  Jewelry isn’t worth his life.  But if my life is in danger or my family’s, he’s a dead man. 

    HOWEVER, I don’t know all the facts.  I don’t know if Zimmerman shot first and then injured himself to look as if he were attacked, or he did what he did to save his own life.  Regardless he put himself in that situation and deserves some sort of accountability for that.   Murder?  Probably not.  

  • Kudos

    Slow. Clap. EVIDENCE!!! I completely agree with everything you said and couldn’t wait to comment the whole time I read.

    I don’t even look at this as a race case. Not once did their races enter into my mind when thinking about who might be guilty (of course, only judging as a Law & Order Couch Potato-type  kind of judge.). Yes, Zimmerman was wrong for pursuing Martin after he was told not to. He should have stayed in his car. But he didn’t, and that’s why we’re here. 

    I don’t think Martin was targeted by any means. Not because he was a “saint”, not because he was black, not because of the sweet tea he was carrying. Those claims are ridiculous. Yes, the hoodie thing raised suspicion in him, I’m sure. But Good Lord, who doesn’t get worried when they see a young male (regardless of race, mind you!) in a hoodie, walking down the street at night? As a female, it frightens me when I’m walking to my car and I see a group of men like that, much less one alone! No one can say that that wasn’t a legit reason for concern – though I agree, again, he jumped to conclusions and would have been better off minding his own business.To the point, I firmly believe this was self-defense. Especially with the latest evidence. I do NOT believe Trayvon Martin was the saint he is being painted to be at all. He was a kid. I don’t believe he “deserved” to be shot and killed at all (that is, until he attacked someone with the force he did. Still not deserved, but at least justified). If anything, Zimmerman should be charged with disobeying an authority’s orders. (And maybe not be allowed to ever have a weapon in his possession again.) But not for murder. He did what the law justified after making the mistake of getting out of his car. And AGAIN, there’s no changing what he did.

    This case absolutely got blown up because of the race issue. Is Zimmerman a racist? Could be. But, sadly, he’s not alone. He’s not the only racist left in America. But I don’t think he set out to shoot Trayvon at all “because he’s black.” I don’t believe it was Zimmerman’s mission to shoot someone that night. I don’t believe Trayvon was seeking out a fight that night, either. What happened, happened. We just have to deal with it now, regardless. And I don’t believe Zimmerman is guilty of cold-blooded murder. It is a tragedy. Trayvon should still be alive today and his family will suffer his loss for the rest of their lives… but I don’t think Zimmerman did this for any reason other than self-defense.Major kudos to you, also, for having the balls to post this. (I’ll be commenting as a guest this time, just to avoid idiot comments like the one by “Fuckubitch” — WOW.) Anyone with an opinion other than that of the media’s is condemned. But ain’t that the beautiful part of livin’ in ‘Merrica? You’re still allowed to have (and voice) your opinion.

  • http://twitter.com/snuggledeath Dezi

    What pictures? Because in the three I’m looking at, he has one cut on his nose (a tiny one), no black eyes, and there is no indication where the heck the cut was on the back of his *head. Also, if some guy were stalking me and I freaked out and fought back, with no weapons, there is still NO REASON for you to shoot me. And the fact that he smoked pot should have no bearing on the situation, especially since marijuana (which is what THC *is*–did you think it was something else? You’re smarter than that) isn’t really known to make people violent.

    Stephanie, I have no problem saying you’re a racist, but I’m frankly saddened and really dismayed by how blind you really are.

    Sorry, changed ‘neck’ to ‘head’.

    • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

      I don’t think THC is anything but marijuana – but I would like to point out that his parents went on blast saying their son wasn’t a drug user – which… the THC clearly proves they didn’t know their son that well (or were lying).

      I’m not quite sure if you called me a racist right there, but I’m very much not.  I waited for the medical reports to come out and then made a decision that media was very much reverse racist on this case, and that it shouldn’t have been that way at all.

      You can’t argue the medical evidence.  If you look at the link I posted below, it shows his bloodied back of his head.  He got out of the car, a scuffle ensued, somehow Martin got him on his back and he ended up shooting him.  By all accounts Zimmerman was an asshole to everyone, not just blacks.

      If this were a white on white crime, no one would be calling for murder 2.  If this was a black on black crime, no one would be calling for murder 2.  And the fact that calling everyone out on their hypocritical thinking makes me a racist… well.  I’m okay with that I guess.

      • David Wilburn

        Didn’t you know, Stephanie?! Anytime you say anything about someone other than a white person breaking the law and/or getting what they deserved, you’re a racist.

        Get a clue, Whitey McSlavedriver.

      • http://twitter.com/snuggledeath Dezi

        uhm….there would be a hell of a lot more blood if he had hit his head as bad as he said he did. and i’m still not seeing black eyes and a broken nose. 
        http://ontd-political.livejournal.com/9664963.html#cutid1 

        And so what, maybe his parents didn’t know him as well as they thought. Guess what, I don’t smoke pot but my flatmate does–it gets in my hear, my clothes, on my skin. If they did an autopsy tomorrow they’d find traces even in my system, even though I’m severely allergic and have hives all over my body from being in contact with it. OH MAN I’M TOTES IN TROUBLE IF I GET PULLED OVER BY THE POLICE

        .Zimmerman was specifically told not to pursue, and yes, I would definitely fight back with all I had if some guy came bearing down on me with a gun. Martin didn’t just pull him out of his car and start whaling on him.Also, and this is the MOST IMPORTANT SHIT: Martin was shot at ‘intermediate range’. Which means that Zimmerman didn’t shoot Martin when he was supposedly beating him down.

        And I love how your friends really think that just because you listen to hip hop and are involved in ‘black culture’ (what, do you recite Langston Hughes poems?) that you get a free pass. If this were a white on white crime, Zimmerman would probably try to pin it on a black dude. If this were black on black crime, someone would just post it and say ‘see, black people are all violent!’

         I’m calling you a racist because you are. Simple as that. And please don’t come back with ‘but but but i have black friends!’ You comment on racial politics as if you have a clue what’s going on, when you have all the privilege being white and well-educated has to offer. I can’t stand to comment anymore. I won’t, but I’ll continue to read just to see what people like you think.

        • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

          No, here’s the deal, I’m not racist because I don’t judge people based on their race. I just them on their actions. Regardless of the situation. And the fact that I don’t cowtow to your belief that minorities should be treated differently than me because they are so put upon is why you call me racist.

          Newsflash, we’re all human, period.

          • Fuckubitch

            your are a racist white trash bitch. don’t deny it just to save face now. everyone knows who you are.

            • http://twitter.com/snuggledeath Dezi

              Wow, mate, you don’t need to insult people. If you don’t have a cognizant argument, best not say anything at all.

              • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1008577104 Kim A. Gibson

                 DEZI, smh at you. you are one of those racist black people aren’t you?….you are the ype that give blacks a bad name.. learn some manners 7 learn what racism really is.

          • http://twitter.com/snuggledeath Dezi

            Put upon? PUT UPON? oh wow. yeah, i’m mad because we’re ‘put upon’. That’s exactly it. Way to boil down oppression to just feeling ‘put upon’. Right. 

            • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

              Everyone deals with oppression.  It doesn’t have to be because of your race.  As a matter of fact, I’m going to do a blog post right now about it.

    • KLT

      You don’t know Steph at all if you think she’s racist.  Steph as lived black culture more days in her life than most of the white apologist’s that call her racist.

      Girls a little ghetto in real life.  

      • David Wilburn

        Well yeah…have you SEEN that booty?!

        • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

          That’s just silly.  I have the flattest ass ever yo.

    • Hahahah

      You’re calling the girl who this morning was posting Young Money’s Steady Mobbin’ on people’s facebook walls a racist?  Damn.  

      • David Wilburn

        I’m pretty sure that song has the word “nigger” in it. Since a white person posted it, she obviously meant for it to be derogatory. So yes, that’s racist.

        • http://www.howmanyfrogs.com/ Stephanie Dorman

          LOL, no man, I was trying to bring them into today.  They were posting Ice Cube’s Steady Mobbin so I came back with Lil Wayne.

          But for real, I still maintain I should be shot for crimes against my own people for love, love, loving this song. 

          • David Wilburn

            Actually Ice Cube used to be racist as fuck back in the day. Now that he’s the pawn of the Jews in Hollywood I’m sure that’s changed.

      • http://twitter.com/snuggledeath Dezi

        Uhm…so the fact that white people listen to hip hop makes them NOT RACIST? wow, this is brand new information. 

    • David Wilburn

      Wait…is this racist?

  • brendanstallard

    If you are attacked, and you feel, “then and there,” at serious risk of
    physical threat, from a person having the ability to carry it out, then
    I’m pretty certain no jury in the land will convict you of killing the
    person threatening you.

    Circumstances DO count.

    My opinion is that folks who are armed, (and I am) should be extremely
    careful to avoid quarrels. Was Zimmerman foolish to follow
    Martin? You bet.

    Key questions are what exactly did Martin do, if anything?

    If he did
    assault, the story ends there.

    If he was running away, murder sticks.

    I can’t see a murder charge getting home on this. As for the
    racist/non-racist, I think that’s a lot of hooey. Stick to the facts of
    the case, make a judgement from that.

    brendan